12:30 am, sitting on the bench in the lobby of 295 Park Avenue South.
Transcribed interview with Val.
If there was someone who was debating about whether or not to be a doorman, is there any advice that you would give them?
The first question I would ask them is, how's your patience?
Again, this is a service oriented job, so if your cable is not that long, you'd get frustrated, because you know, a lot of people in the building, a lot of different cultures in the building, and you know, to some people it's like....uhhh...if you're a doorman and if you don't have enough patience to bear...uhhh..the demands that other people in the building will be asking of you, you might not be able to last that long. So I mean, that'd be the first thing I'd ask them. If you call that as an advice, I would say, you have trouble very very very. Your patience has to be...how you say that Lis...you have to be...
willing to be tested over and over again?
you have to be willing to be able to bear criticisms, or even sarcasm, and don't take it to heart. If somebody tells you something bad, just let it go through here (points to one ear) and let it out the other ear. But that would be my first question or first advice. You gotta have patience, if you don't have patience, don't bother.
You gotta be able to communicate. Because...I don't know...there was like...the Phillippino guy that retired...were you able to....were you here when Ramon was still here?
I can't remember. I don't think so.
Yeah because Ramon was an old guy...so he was like..you know...from the old school. Like you don't...you don't let all these young kids walk all over you...you're the boss...because you're old and you gotta be respected. You can't say that if you're a doorman. Because, especially the culture in America...it's like...different. I mean people hardly call you 'sir' here. People just know your first names, and not a lot of people even say "oh mister so and so." They don't do that anymore. So that'd be my first advice.
And you gotta be a little thick, you know. And you gotta be able to explain so that the tenants in the building will be able to understand. Because that's one thing that's very important in this kind of business. If you can't make your tenants understand, that could create confusion....and confusion will create...it might create a situation where there'd be animosity between you, the management, the doorman, and the tenant. And you don't want that. Patience and communication. You got to be able to communicate.
Monday, March 22, 2010
Monday, March 8, 2010
Can You Really Trust Your Doorman?
So, after an interesting encounter with my doormen this weekend, I decided that I am going to write this post from personal experience.
While I still have many questions I would like to ask of future contacts:
-What makes a good doorman?
-Is there a doorman hierarchy aside from seniority?
-Do you ever hang out with your "co-workers" outside of work? Would you want to? Have you ever bumped into them outside of work?
-How do you get all the gossip of the building?
-What's the ideal tenant like? What happens on the ideal shift?
I think this weekend has taught me quite a few things about the different "strategies" a doorman can abide by.
So. Story time.
Friday night, me and my roommates had about 15 people over. We were all about to leave the apartment when my friend opened our door to a young woman stumbling down the hallway. It wouldn't have been that strange had she been clothed in more than a wet tank top and underwear... and maybe if she hadn't been dragging one crutch with her. So, we close the door, hoping she'll just return to wherever she came from. Then she knocks on our door and drunkenly asks us if she can come party with us, we politely decline, and find out she lives 2 doors down. Three of us escort this drunk girl and her crutch back to her apartment. There is broken glass scattered in front of the stairwell in the hallway and we assume that it once held whatever pink liquid was now all over her shirt. After helping this woman zigzag back to her apartment, we wake up her roommate, return to our own apartment, and go out with our remaining guests at about 2:30 am.
We get back at 4:30, and our doorman, Sam, grumbles that someone might be complaining about us to the office in the morning. Now, my apartment has had their fair share of parties. However, the rest of our floormates are no angels either (as evidenced by our neighbor's recent escapade.) So I explain to Sam that there is broken glass in front of the stairwell and that some girl was stumbling through the hallway knocking on doors - not our fault. Obviously, I don't want our apartment to get blamed for that.
I ask for Sam's advice. This is what he tells me:
Don't tell Jeffrey (our Super), because if you tell him, he will just assume it's you. I've been working here for 16 years and I don't trust Jeffrey. The guy working before me didn't say there were any parties tonight and that's what I'm going to say to the guy that takes the shift after me. Jeffrey isn't going to know who it was and he can't just blame anyone. He's just going to have to deal with it. If you tell him, he's only going to believe that you're the ones who did it.
I believe Sam. He's always been pretty nice to us, and hey - any guy that's worked here for 16 years must have a better handle on these kinds of situation than I do. His logic makes sense - our super can't blame anyone - so might as well just not bring attention to ourselves.
I thank Sam, go back upstairs, and go to sleep.
Saturday at about 9 am - my roommate hears someone coming up the stairs and puking in the hallway. Gross.
But around 11 am, when we survey the damage in the hallway, everything is clean and the glass is gone. Awesome. No one says anything to us at any point in the day. Even more awesome.
Sunday - still nothing.
Monday - I come home from class and Robert asks me if we had any parties this weekend. I explain to him that we had a handful of people over on Friday night, but everyone left by 2:30 - nothing major. He tells me that someone called the office and complained that someone from our party puked in front of their doorway.
What?
I explain the one-crutch drunk mess, the glass, and the audible 9 am puke noises, and Sam's advice to Robert. He believes me and acknowledges that he doesn't know how we should go about trying to fix this - apparently the office has already been notified and we might be getting a letter.
Ugh.
I ask him what we should have done in that situation. I explain to him that I told Sam, the doorman on duty. Should we have called and complained ourselves? That seemed stupid to me.
Apparently, when our neighbor complained about the puke, our super automatically assumed it was our fault...along with the broken glass. When Robert tried to stick up for us, Jeffrey told him not to bother because Robert wasn't the doorman on duty that night.
I was frustrated. I had told Sam that night, why didn't he say something to Jeffrey?
Robert tries to make me feel better - "the worst that can happen is you get a formal warning or they don't let you renew your lease."
What's done is done, but I still don't think it's right that we have to start complaining about other people in order to protect ourselves. And even if we say something now, Jeffrey is probably going to think we're just making it up.
According to Robert, Sam doesn't like us. "That's probably why he told you not to say anything. He probably wants you guys out of here. He just doesn't care what happens to anyone as long as he gets to keep his job."
I ask Robert what we're supposed to do if this happens again while Sam is on duty.
He tells me: "Write it in the repair book or something, that's what Jeffrey checks in the morning."
I think to myself - sounds shady, but I guess that's what we have to do.
I tell Robert: "I wish you had been on duty Friday night."
Robert: "Yeah, me too. Then your story would have been straight."
Moral: While "protect tenants" may be in the job description for a doorman, he very well might do just the opposite.
While I still have many questions I would like to ask of future contacts:
-What makes a good doorman?
-Is there a doorman hierarchy aside from seniority?
-Do you ever hang out with your "co-workers" outside of work? Would you want to? Have you ever bumped into them outside of work?
-How do you get all the gossip of the building?
-What's the ideal tenant like? What happens on the ideal shift?
I think this weekend has taught me quite a few things about the different "strategies" a doorman can abide by.
So. Story time.
Friday night, me and my roommates had about 15 people over. We were all about to leave the apartment when my friend opened our door to a young woman stumbling down the hallway. It wouldn't have been that strange had she been clothed in more than a wet tank top and underwear... and maybe if she hadn't been dragging one crutch with her. So, we close the door, hoping she'll just return to wherever she came from. Then she knocks on our door and drunkenly asks us if she can come party with us, we politely decline, and find out she lives 2 doors down. Three of us escort this drunk girl and her crutch back to her apartment. There is broken glass scattered in front of the stairwell in the hallway and we assume that it once held whatever pink liquid was now all over her shirt. After helping this woman zigzag back to her apartment, we wake up her roommate, return to our own apartment, and go out with our remaining guests at about 2:30 am.
We get back at 4:30, and our doorman, Sam, grumbles that someone might be complaining about us to the office in the morning. Now, my apartment has had their fair share of parties. However, the rest of our floormates are no angels either (as evidenced by our neighbor's recent escapade.) So I explain to Sam that there is broken glass in front of the stairwell and that some girl was stumbling through the hallway knocking on doors - not our fault. Obviously, I don't want our apartment to get blamed for that.
I ask for Sam's advice. This is what he tells me:
Don't tell Jeffrey (our Super), because if you tell him, he will just assume it's you. I've been working here for 16 years and I don't trust Jeffrey. The guy working before me didn't say there were any parties tonight and that's what I'm going to say to the guy that takes the shift after me. Jeffrey isn't going to know who it was and he can't just blame anyone. He's just going to have to deal with it. If you tell him, he's only going to believe that you're the ones who did it.
I believe Sam. He's always been pretty nice to us, and hey - any guy that's worked here for 16 years must have a better handle on these kinds of situation than I do. His logic makes sense - our super can't blame anyone - so might as well just not bring attention to ourselves.
I thank Sam, go back upstairs, and go to sleep.
Saturday at about 9 am - my roommate hears someone coming up the stairs and puking in the hallway. Gross.
But around 11 am, when we survey the damage in the hallway, everything is clean and the glass is gone. Awesome. No one says anything to us at any point in the day. Even more awesome.
Sunday - still nothing.
Monday - I come home from class and Robert asks me if we had any parties this weekend. I explain to him that we had a handful of people over on Friday night, but everyone left by 2:30 - nothing major. He tells me that someone called the office and complained that someone from our party puked in front of their doorway.
What?
I explain the one-crutch drunk mess, the glass, and the audible 9 am puke noises, and Sam's advice to Robert. He believes me and acknowledges that he doesn't know how we should go about trying to fix this - apparently the office has already been notified and we might be getting a letter.
Ugh.
I ask him what we should have done in that situation. I explain to him that I told Sam, the doorman on duty. Should we have called and complained ourselves? That seemed stupid to me.
Apparently, when our neighbor complained about the puke, our super automatically assumed it was our fault...along with the broken glass. When Robert tried to stick up for us, Jeffrey told him not to bother because Robert wasn't the doorman on duty that night.
I was frustrated. I had told Sam that night, why didn't he say something to Jeffrey?
Robert tries to make me feel better - "the worst that can happen is you get a formal warning or they don't let you renew your lease."
What's done is done, but I still don't think it's right that we have to start complaining about other people in order to protect ourselves. And even if we say something now, Jeffrey is probably going to think we're just making it up.
According to Robert, Sam doesn't like us. "That's probably why he told you not to say anything. He probably wants you guys out of here. He just doesn't care what happens to anyone as long as he gets to keep his job."
I ask Robert what we're supposed to do if this happens again while Sam is on duty.
He tells me: "Write it in the repair book or something, that's what Jeffrey checks in the morning."
I think to myself - sounds shady, but I guess that's what we have to do.
I tell Robert: "I wish you had been on duty Friday night."
Robert: "Yeah, me too. Then your story would have been straight."
Moral: While "protect tenants" may be in the job description for a doorman, he very well might do just the opposite.
Sunday, March 7, 2010
15 Minutes with Val, part 1 of 4
Tuesday, 3/2/10 11:40 pm - Wednesday, 3/3/10 12:35 am
Lobby of 295 Park Ave South
okay - so - how long have you been a doorman?
roughly 12 years.
how long have you been a doorman at this building?
this building? 12 years.
oh so you've been here since you've started?
yeah, because uhh..i didn't really start as a doorman. i was with the airlines before i came here
so i'm basically uhh..attuned with public service...its like..not like..public service...its like service oriented jobs.
was there any one event that made you want to become a doorman? or did the opportunity just arise?
it just arose becuase when i came to america....i was like...i had been with the airlines for 15 years...so when i came to america...i was connected with a...ummm...with a ummm travel agency....which was very much related with my kind of work when i was in the phillipines. so when i came, uhhh, i made... a little money here and there. then i decided to...i told myself that i would go back to the uhhh to the...thrill meeting all kinds of people everyday, which is what i did in travel
but the thing is, when i applied with an airline here in america...the umm..the airline industry in america isnt like what i expected from the phillipines because in america it was like, we'll just call you when we need you.
that doesn't help. so i was having trouble with the travel agency and one of my fraternity brothers gave me a buzz, he says bro...you satisfied with what you're doing there right now? and i said, yeah, basically im satisfied, why?
he says uhh well i have...i know of an opening in a building, ya know, if youre interested its also a service oriented kinda work because you'll be like...attending to tenants who live in apt buildings which is basically what you do like..in hotels. so i'm like oh that'd be fun, i'd be meeting a lot of people every day. different situations you know, different kinda stuff every day? and he says, yeah. and i said yeah i'll try it. so i came in here and when i came in here, it wasn't a steady job yet. it was like they were looking for people to cover, cover the shifts, like what robert's doing basically when he started. so thats how i started. i covered the shifts and it was...it was...it worked for me because...the travel agency....the travel agency thing you don't actually sit at a table, because i was with operations, i wasnt with reservations. sooo...in operations you sell tickets, you go to the airport, you help passengers, all taht stuff, so, so i says ooohh this is good, this is good for me i make money here, i make money there. and that's how i got here.
You've been here for 12 years, is that the longest any of the doormen have been here?
No.
Oh really?
Before Robert, I was the most junior.
No way.
Yes. Doc's been here for like what, 23 years? 22, 23 years? Sam's been here for what, 16, 17 years?
So once you find a building do you stick with it kinda thing?
Yeah well because the building workers in new york , is a pretty, uhhh, fair job in terms of compensation. So it's like, a lot of people stay the job and its a relaxing job. I mean I like talking to people...people like...so it depends on you liz, i mean if you like to talk to people...this would be a very nice...ya know, if you talk to people, handle stress, i mean when i was with the airlines I...i...i was...like...what i do here. I talk with people all the time, people tell me Val, this is the problem, this is the problem, this is the problem, Val, I have friends coming into the building, Val, my parents are coming into the building. Same thing with what you have with the airlines. It's more stressful with the airlines, but it's the same thing.
So you like interacting with people all the time?
Yeah, interacting with people is very nice job....for me. Talk to people, different kind of people. Talk with ummm...yeah ummm encounter different situations every day.
What is the craziest situation, if you can pick one, that you've ever been in?
Here in the building? There's lots. Do you want....do you want the x-rated ones or the general?
What's your fave?
No. No. No. No fave. No fave. You said crazy situations, sure there are crazy situations.
Just tell me any story. A crazy story.
Well it would depend on actually how you describe crazy. But theres...i've been in a lot of situations in the building. Like gang initiations in front of the building, they broke the uhh..glass partitions because...
(a young woman walks in with a young man)
Girl: Hi Val!
Val to me: Oh! Excuse me.
Val to girl (follows her to the middle of the lobby with small piece of paper in hand): Just to double check on your email. C-U-O...
Girl: K-U-O..P-J
Val: Oh... K-U-O-P-J. Gotchya.
Girl: Thank you, bye! (walks to elevator)
Young man waiting at elevator: Bye Val!
Val: Bye John!
John (still from elevator): You're not going to tell her about my girlfriends are you Val?
Val: Nah.
John: All 8?
Val: Nah. I'm not going to tell her that we share you know... (laughing)
Girl (laughs): I'll pay double whatever he pays you...
Val (laughing) to me: See?? Ummm..going back to....I still believe it was a gang initiation...because the guy was looking at me. A kid! 16, 17 years old, ummm... (a man walks in) Hi Jay!
Jay: Hey Val.
Val: And umm he was...he had a jacket on...and he was looking at me...you know...I was like doing that...reading my stuff here (points down to the big table of buttons with apt numbers on them used to buzz apts when guests arrive)..then he came back..looking at me again...then the third time he came back...and pulled a uhhh..a pipe....and he just...he just hit that (points ahead)...that glass partition... the first door...boom. So i got my little stick too (motions to cane) and he ran away.
That was a situation. Maybe somebody wanted to hurt you or something.
I've had situations where like....guys in the building hired strippers....and when the stripper came to the building..she said...she had an overcoat on...(brings hands across chest as if opening a coat)...wanna looksie?
...that was a situation.
I've had a situation where a tenant comes into the building and says "Val?" And I say "yeah." ..."I'm drunk." Okay? She just dove on the floor (lauging)
Okay. Another situation where a guy tenant comes in...again, "Val I'm drunk" Blahhhhhh. Puked all over the place.
That must be the worst.
Nah. Eh. You know, well....things like that...very common. Very very common.
I mean you get to see people at their best and at their worst, right?
Weeeell, if I write my memoirs right now, I would make money because a lot of people would pay me not to write them.
(to tenant): What's up Adam?
Adam: Can I pick up my package?
Val (to Adam): Oh you have a package?
(to me): Excuse me.
(to Adam): She's interviewing me for a Hollywood movie.
Adam (to me): Oh yeah, what's the movie about?
**I explain my class project to Adam while Val gets the package, Val also says "whats up!" as another tenant walks in, returns to his post and reminds me that we will have to sit on the bench when it's midnight because that's when Jay will take over**
Do you have any pet peeves?
Ummmmmm. I really don't like when a lot of....a lot of...guests, or visitors in the building don't seem to realize that we have a function here. And they don't seem to know how to read that thing (points to standing sign "All Visitors Must be Announced"). Sooo. one of the things that I really hate, is when people just go through, seeing that, and seeing us here, and its like 'oh it's okay for me to go up.' You know, things like that. It's like..if I was the friend, that they're going to visit, I would be mad at me, the doorman. Because you're supposed to do that, and you didn't. Ya know. That's...that's one of my pet peeves. Like. If it happened, hey you being a tenant, should like..tell your friend too...hey, if you're my friend, you should stop for the doorman, because that's why he's there. And that's why I live in the building, to let the doorman help me with my things, and to announce my guests, and to protect me. Right? If you're my friend, please, don't abuse the doorman. I mean to me, to me, it's like abusing us here. You just...ignore that sign...and you know...I don't look like a bum do I? (Motions to clothes, wearing long-sleeved button down white shirt and a navy tie with black pants). No, of course not, right? And when you're in a building in New York, when you see somebody there standing there doing like this, kay that's gotta be a person with authority right? A lot of friends of tenants don't give....*whispers*...a shit.
So tell me more about what you're wearing. Do you have a uniform?
Yeah. I mean its like...we have to be presentable...with a tie, long sleeved shirts. And if we really, we just basically..... like what a really doorman....he'd also have...another jacket. But the thing is, we are everything. Like doorman, security, concierge. So if, if it was basically like pure doorman, where you'd be out there (motions outside) I'd be wearing those things, because, jacket...it's cold. Especially in weather like this. But I'm inside. And I think this is presentable.
Lobby of 295 Park Ave South
okay - so - how long have you been a doorman?
roughly 12 years.
how long have you been a doorman at this building?
this building? 12 years.
oh so you've been here since you've started?
yeah, because uhh..i didn't really start as a doorman. i was with the airlines before i came here
so i'm basically uhh..attuned with public service...its like..not like..public service...its like service oriented jobs.
was there any one event that made you want to become a doorman? or did the opportunity just arise?
it just arose becuase when i came to america....i was like...i had been with the airlines for 15 years...so when i came to america...i was connected with a...ummm...with a ummm travel agency....which was very much related with my kind of work when i was in the phillipines. so when i came, uhhh, i made... a little money here and there. then i decided to...i told myself that i would go back to the uhhh to the...thrill meeting all kinds of people everyday, which is what i did in travel
but the thing is, when i applied with an airline here in america...the umm..the airline industry in america isnt like what i expected from the phillipines because in america it was like, we'll just call you when we need you.
that doesn't help. so i was having trouble with the travel agency and one of my fraternity brothers gave me a buzz, he says bro...you satisfied with what you're doing there right now? and i said, yeah, basically im satisfied, why?
he says uhh well i have...i know of an opening in a building, ya know, if youre interested its also a service oriented kinda work because you'll be like...attending to tenants who live in apt buildings which is basically what you do like..in hotels. so i'm like oh that'd be fun, i'd be meeting a lot of people every day. different situations you know, different kinda stuff every day? and he says, yeah. and i said yeah i'll try it. so i came in here and when i came in here, it wasn't a steady job yet. it was like they were looking for people to cover, cover the shifts, like what robert's doing basically when he started. so thats how i started. i covered the shifts and it was...it was...it worked for me because...the travel agency....the travel agency thing you don't actually sit at a table, because i was with operations, i wasnt with reservations. sooo...in operations you sell tickets, you go to the airport, you help passengers, all taht stuff, so, so i says ooohh this is good, this is good for me i make money here, i make money there. and that's how i got here.
You've been here for 12 years, is that the longest any of the doormen have been here?
No.
Oh really?
Before Robert, I was the most junior.
No way.
Yes. Doc's been here for like what, 23 years? 22, 23 years? Sam's been here for what, 16, 17 years?
So once you find a building do you stick with it kinda thing?
Yeah well because the building workers in new york , is a pretty, uhhh, fair job in terms of compensation. So it's like, a lot of people stay the job and its a relaxing job. I mean I like talking to people...people like...so it depends on you liz, i mean if you like to talk to people...this would be a very nice...ya know, if you talk to people, handle stress, i mean when i was with the airlines I...i...i was...like...what i do here. I talk with people all the time, people tell me Val, this is the problem, this is the problem, this is the problem, Val, I have friends coming into the building, Val, my parents are coming into the building. Same thing with what you have with the airlines. It's more stressful with the airlines, but it's the same thing.
So you like interacting with people all the time?
Yeah, interacting with people is very nice job....for me. Talk to people, different kind of people. Talk with ummm...yeah ummm encounter different situations every day.
What is the craziest situation, if you can pick one, that you've ever been in?
Here in the building? There's lots. Do you want....do you want the x-rated ones or the general?
What's your fave?
No. No. No. No fave. No fave. You said crazy situations, sure there are crazy situations.
Just tell me any story. A crazy story.
Well it would depend on actually how you describe crazy. But theres...i've been in a lot of situations in the building. Like gang initiations in front of the building, they broke the uhh..glass partitions because...
(a young woman walks in with a young man)
Girl: Hi Val!
Val to me: Oh! Excuse me.
Val to girl (follows her to the middle of the lobby with small piece of paper in hand): Just to double check on your email. C-U-O...
Girl: K-U-O..P-J
Val: Oh... K-U-O-P-J. Gotchya.
Girl: Thank you, bye! (walks to elevator)
Young man waiting at elevator: Bye Val!
Val: Bye John!
John (still from elevator): You're not going to tell her about my girlfriends are you Val?
Val: Nah.
John: All 8?
Val: Nah. I'm not going to tell her that we share you know... (laughing)
Girl (laughs): I'll pay double whatever he pays you...
Val (laughing) to me: See?? Ummm..going back to....I still believe it was a gang initiation...because the guy was looking at me. A kid! 16, 17 years old, ummm... (a man walks in) Hi Jay!
Jay: Hey Val.
Val: And umm he was...he had a jacket on...and he was looking at me...you know...I was like doing that...reading my stuff here (points down to the big table of buttons with apt numbers on them used to buzz apts when guests arrive)..then he came back..looking at me again...then the third time he came back...and pulled a uhhh..a pipe....and he just...he just hit that (points ahead)...that glass partition... the first door...boom. So i got my little stick too (motions to cane) and he ran away.
That was a situation. Maybe somebody wanted to hurt you or something.
I've had situations where like....guys in the building hired strippers....and when the stripper came to the building..she said...she had an overcoat on...(brings hands across chest as if opening a coat)...wanna looksie?
...that was a situation.
I've had a situation where a tenant comes into the building and says "Val?" And I say "yeah." ..."I'm drunk." Okay? She just dove on the floor (lauging)
Okay. Another situation where a guy tenant comes in...again, "Val I'm drunk" Blahhhhhh. Puked all over the place.
That must be the worst.
Nah. Eh. You know, well....things like that...very common. Very very common.
I mean you get to see people at their best and at their worst, right?
Weeeell, if I write my memoirs right now, I would make money because a lot of people would pay me not to write them.
(to tenant): What's up Adam?
Adam: Can I pick up my package?
Val (to Adam): Oh you have a package?
(to me): Excuse me.
(to Adam): She's interviewing me for a Hollywood movie.
Adam (to me): Oh yeah, what's the movie about?
**I explain my class project to Adam while Val gets the package, Val also says "whats up!" as another tenant walks in, returns to his post and reminds me that we will have to sit on the bench when it's midnight because that's when Jay will take over**
Do you have any pet peeves?
Ummmmmm. I really don't like when a lot of....a lot of...guests, or visitors in the building don't seem to realize that we have a function here. And they don't seem to know how to read that thing (points to standing sign "All Visitors Must be Announced"). Sooo. one of the things that I really hate, is when people just go through, seeing that, and seeing us here, and its like 'oh it's okay for me to go up.' You know, things like that. It's like..if I was the friend, that they're going to visit, I would be mad at me, the doorman. Because you're supposed to do that, and you didn't. Ya know. That's...that's one of my pet peeves. Like. If it happened, hey you being a tenant, should like..tell your friend too...hey, if you're my friend, you should stop for the doorman, because that's why he's there. And that's why I live in the building, to let the doorman help me with my things, and to announce my guests, and to protect me. Right? If you're my friend, please, don't abuse the doorman. I mean to me, to me, it's like abusing us here. You just...ignore that sign...and you know...I don't look like a bum do I? (Motions to clothes, wearing long-sleeved button down white shirt and a navy tie with black pants). No, of course not, right? And when you're in a building in New York, when you see somebody there standing there doing like this, kay that's gotta be a person with authority right? A lot of friends of tenants don't give....*whispers*...a shit.
So tell me more about what you're wearing. Do you have a uniform?
Yeah. I mean its like...we have to be presentable...with a tie, long sleeved shirts. And if we really, we just basically..... like what a really doorman....he'd also have...another jacket. But the thing is, we are everything. Like doorman, security, concierge. So if, if it was basically like pure doorman, where you'd be out there (motions outside) I'd be wearing those things, because, jacket...it's cold. Especially in weather like this. But I'm inside. And I think this is presentable.
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